because they wanted to convict us so badly. we had other things like alibis, people that could testify to where we were at the time and can plainly prove that we weren't at the crime scene. they seen have jesse mescelli signing a log book and photos about him. so technically it is possible that they could have showed them the dna and they were so enraged at the time that they would have convicted us anyway. >> have you tattoos that you didn't have last time. what do me mean? >> it helps me deal. it is very psychologically and emotionally soothing to me. it is also like putting on a suit of armor. like it gives you some sort of level of -- like a buffer zone between you and the rest of the world. >> what are the ones on your knuckles? >> these are ruins. usually when i get tattoos i get something meaningful to me. like i said, it is a sust armor so i look to put on a suit of armor made out of things i love. like winter, snow, arch angel michael. something that means something to me personally. >> do you stay in touch with jason